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Discourses by Epictetus

  • c. AD 108
  • Koine Greek
  • Public domain
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If the Enchiridion is the summary, this is the seminar. Arrian sat in Epictetus's classroom and wrote down what was said — the arguments, the interruptions, the students being taken apart, the jokes.

It is far longer, far less tidy, and considerably better. Where the handbook states a rule, the Discourses shows a man being talked out of an objection he was sure of five minutes earlier.

He is also funnier than his reputation. He mocks students who can parse a syllogism but fall apart when their travel plans change. He is not gentle about it. Bring him something you consider unbearable and he will ask, without much sympathy, which part of it was ever yours.

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Freedom and what owns you

Written by a former slave who thought most free men were not free.

  • I feel trapped by my own life.
  • What does freedom actually mean if I have responsibilities?
  • How much of me belongs to my job?

Fear and what's actually at stake

Not death or pain, he argued, but our opinion of them.

  • I'm afraid of something and can't tell if the fear is reasonable.
  • How do I act when I'm frightened?
  • What's the worst that could actually happen to me?

Progress and slow work

Nothing great is produced suddenly. Not even a fig.

  • I'm not improving fast enough.
  • How do I keep going when nothing is changing?
  • I've read all the philosophy and I still behave badly.

Other people and their opinions

He was merciless about the need to be well thought of.

  • Why do I care so much what people think?
  • Someone I respect thinks I'm making a mistake.
  • How do I stop explaining myself?

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  • I feel trapped by my own life.
  • I'm afraid of something and can't tell if the fear is reasonable.
  • I'm not improving fast enough.
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What Discourses actually is

The Discourses are Arrian's record of the teaching of Epictetus, compiled around AD 108 at his school in Nicopolis. Four of the original eight books survive.

They are not lectures but classroom sessions — Epictetus responding to questions, dismantling positions, returning obsessively to a small set of themes. The material is the same Stoicism found in the Enchiridion, but worked through rather than asserted.

Epictetus had been born into slavery and freed in adulthood. That fact runs through everything: his central preoccupation is freedom, and his claim is that a slave who has ordered his own judgements is freer than an emperor who has not. Marcus Aurelius read him closely, and the debt is visible on almost every page of the Meditations.

In its words

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What then is to be done? To make the best of what is in our power, and take the rest as it naturally happens.
Book I, Chapter 1 — trans. George Long, 1877
It is not death or pain that is to be feared, but the fear of pain or death.
Book II, Chapter 1 — trans. George Long, 1877
Nothing great is produced suddenly, since not even the grape or the fig is.
Book I, Chapter 15 — trans. George Long, 1877
Remember that the door is open.
Book I, Chapter 24 — trans. George Long, 1877

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